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	<title>Comments on: Clean air could kill the Amazon, researchers say&#8230;Ya right!!!</title>
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		<title>By: Frederick Carle</title>
		<link>http://www.talkgreen.ca/clean-air-could-kill-the-amazon-researchers-sayya-right/comment-page-1/#comment-369</link>
		<dc:creator>Frederick Carle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 00:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article Josh!</description>
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		<title>By: Joshua S. Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.talkgreen.ca/clean-air-could-kill-the-amazon-researchers-sayya-right/comment-page-1/#comment-364</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua S. Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 16:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the sort of bad reporting that gives all environmental reporters a bad name! The evidence for the degradation of the Amazon rainforest is actually right on the money, and not in any way an excuse to pollute more. That you suggest otherwise is simply insane. 

I wrote about this at PlanetSave.com, check the link on my name! I look at the actual science behind this report, rather than just randomly attacking it. 

Josh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the sort of bad reporting that gives all environmental reporters a bad name! The evidence for the degradation of the Amazon rainforest is actually right on the money, and not in any way an excuse to pollute more. That you suggest otherwise is simply insane. </p>
<p>I wrote about this at PlanetSave.com, check the link on my name! I look at the actual science behind this report, rather than just randomly attacking it. </p>
<p>Josh</p>
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		<title>By: Frederick Carle</title>
		<link>http://www.talkgreen.ca/clean-air-could-kill-the-amazon-researchers-sayya-right/comment-page-1/#comment-345</link>
		<dc:creator>Frederick Carle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 14:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But we got to realize that stopping pollution is not an overnight thing. It&#039;s going to take many years so I don&#039;t believe that it would affect the amazon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But we got to realize that stopping pollution is not an overnight thing. It&#8217;s going to take many years so I don&#8217;t believe that it would affect the amazon.</p>
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		<title>By: EverythingsGoneGreen</title>
		<link>http://www.talkgreen.ca/clean-air-could-kill-the-amazon-researchers-sayya-right/comment-page-1/#comment-342</link>
		<dc:creator>EverythingsGoneGreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 07:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whilst it may be natural to react to this news as mere BS it is worth remembering that ecosystems are exactly that: systems, and complex ones at that. They are changed by and adapt to internal &amp; external influences so by merely removing one external factor does not necessarily equate to returning the internal status quo: Remember that the Amazon forests have changed so dramatically over the last half century that by simply returning pollution to, for instance, that 50 year old &quot;restore point&quot; will not reinstate the Amazon ecosystem to what is was back then due to the fact that you cannot also (quite so quickly) re-establish what has been deforested.

An analogy might be to remove the daily fix from a long-term heroin addict - as soon as you&#039;ve removed the input of pollution into their bloodstream do they automatically return to the health of their pre-drug days?

The operative word in the findings is that cleaner air COULD kill the Amazon, not WILL or WON&#039;T but COULD. What this research highlights is that there needs to be a more considered and intelligent approach to the whole Amazon issue rather than just cutting pollution. As Peter Cox himself says, this is quite ironic.

With this in mind, what might now be on the table to discuss? How about re-forestation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whilst it may be natural to react to this news as mere BS it is worth remembering that ecosystems are exactly that: systems, and complex ones at that. They are changed by and adapt to internal &amp; external influences so by merely removing one external factor does not necessarily equate to returning the internal status quo: Remember that the Amazon forests have changed so dramatically over the last half century that by simply returning pollution to, for instance, that 50 year old &#8220;restore point&#8221; will not reinstate the Amazon ecosystem to what is was back then due to the fact that you cannot also (quite so quickly) re-establish what has been deforested.</p>
<p>An analogy might be to remove the daily fix from a long-term heroin addict &#8211; as soon as you&#8217;ve removed the input of pollution into their bloodstream do they automatically return to the health of their pre-drug days?</p>
<p>The operative word in the findings is that cleaner air COULD kill the Amazon, not WILL or WON&#8217;T but COULD. What this research highlights is that there needs to be a more considered and intelligent approach to the whole Amazon issue rather than just cutting pollution. As Peter Cox himself says, this is quite ironic.</p>
<p>With this in mind, what might now be on the table to discuss? How about re-forestation?</p>
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		<title>By: Sun Tzu</title>
		<link>http://www.talkgreen.ca/clean-air-could-kill-the-amazon-researchers-sayya-right/comment-page-1/#comment-316</link>
		<dc:creator>Sun Tzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 14:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whenever I read a Global Climate Change piece and see the phase: &lt;i&gt;Stop or fight Global Climate Change&lt;/i&gt;, I am compelled to ask the question: &lt;i&gt;When will we know it is stopped?&lt;/i&gt;.  If something is to be stopped, then there must be something that tells us we’ve achieved that goal.  Whenever I ask someone this question, I rarely get a rational answer.  Unlike this position from John A. Warden III which indeed attempts to provide at least in part a rational approach to answering the question.  His &lt;a href=&quot;http://venturist.com/wordpress/?p=33&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Thinking Strategically about Global Climate Change&lt;/a&gt; is indeed a bit provocative.  One wonders whether all the competing Global Warming and Climate Change market participants could ever agree on an ideal climate.  Maybe we ought to try!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever I read a Global Climate Change piece and see the phase: <i>Stop or fight Global Climate Change</i>, I am compelled to ask the question: <i>When will we know it is stopped?</i>.  If something is to be stopped, then there must be something that tells us we’ve achieved that goal.  Whenever I ask someone this question, I rarely get a rational answer.  Unlike this position from John A. Warden III which indeed attempts to provide at least in part a rational approach to answering the question.  His <a href="http://venturist.com/wordpress/?p=33" rel="nofollow">Thinking Strategically about Global Climate Change</a> is indeed a bit provocative.  One wonders whether all the competing Global Warming and Climate Change market participants could ever agree on an ideal climate.  Maybe we ought to try!</p>
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